Embattled actress Amber Heard is opening up about her recent trial loss to Johnny Depp. Following the televised trial, which saw jurors agree with Depp that Heard had defamed him with false allegations of domestic abuse, Heard took on her first post-trial interview with Savannah Guthrie on NBC’s Today. The first half of the interview aired on Tuesday morning with Heard speaking out about the verdict and her public reputation.
Guthrie asked Heard about the verdict, which Heard noted was “surreal.” Pressed further about her testimony, which observers of the trial for the most part do not believe, Heard doubled down on everything she said at the trial. As Heard explained (via Variety), she says she will forever stand by her accusations, even if it resulted in a trial that was very unpleasant for her to go through.
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“Surreal and difficult. This has been a long time coming. To my dying day, I’ll stand by every word of my testimony.” [It was] the most humiliating and horrible thing I’ve been through. I’ve never felt more removed from my own humanity. I felt less than human.”
Heard has said that she doesn’t blame the jurors for arriving at their conclusion, suggesting that they were influenced by Depp’s fame and popularity. She claims that it would be “impossible” for even well-intentioned jurors not to notice the Depp fans that had surrounded the course and believes this impacted their ability to see the Pirates of the Caribbean star in a negative light.
“I think even the most well-intentioned juror…it would have been impossible to avoid this. Every single day I passed three, four, sometimes six city blocks with people holding signs saying ‘Burn the Witch,’ ‘Death to Amber.” After three and a half weeks, I took the stand and saw a courtroom packed full of Captain Jack Sparrow fans who were vocal, energized.”
Amber Heard Points to the UK Trial, Says Evidence Was Omitted
Previously, Depp had sued The Sun’s publisher in the UK after the tabloid had referred to him as a “wife beater” based on Heard’s claims. In that case, a singular judge was left to make the decision rather than a jury, and that judge ruled that Heard’s claims of abuse were “substantially true.” That decision has been widely criticized, but Heard says it happened because there was “even more evidence” against Depp allowed in that trial that wasn’t introduced in the U.S. trial.
“There was another trial that dealt with the same substantive issues and had even more evidence in. In fact, my evidence was largely left out. His lawyer did a better job at distracting the jury from the real issues… I would not blame the average person for looking at this and how it’s been covered and not seeing Hollywood brats at their worst. But what people don’t understand is that it’s so much bigger than that. This is not only about our First Amendment rights to speak. It’s a freedom to speak truth to power, and that’s all I spoke and I spoke it to power and I paid the price.”
In response to Depp’s lawyer accusing Heard of acting on the stand, Heard fired back:
“Says the lawyer for the man who convinced the world he had scissors for fingers? I’m the performer? I had listened to weeks of testimony insinuating or saying quite directly that I’m a terrible actress, so I’m a bit confused how I could be both.”
One of the most damning pieces of evidence against Heard has been audiotapes featuring the two arguing. In these tapes, Heard admits to striking Depp and can be heard taunting him with insults. Trial observers, and clearly the jurors, felt that this painted a very different picture of the relationship than what Heard had been describing. To that, Heard claims the audiotapes were edited and that they aren’t genuine evidence of how the relationship actually was. She also says had would “take the blame” for things she didn’t do, as that’s “how to talk about that with your abuser.”
“I know much has been made of these audiotapes. They were first leaked online after being edited. What you would hear on those clips is not evidence of what was happening. They were negotiation of how to talk about that with your abuser. As I testified on the stand about this, when your life is at risk, not only will you take the blame for things you shouldn’t take the blame for, but when you’re in an abusive dynamic psychologically, emotionally and physically, you don’t have the resources that you or I do with the luxury of saying this is black and white. It’s anything but when you’re living in it.”
Before the interview ended, Heard did admit that she’s made “mistakes,” but made it clear that she stands by every single accusation leveled at Depp throughout the legal battle.
“I made a lot of mistakes, but I’ve always told the truth.”
The second part of Amber Heard’s new interview will air on Wednesday morning on Today.